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Proposal for instruction set - now on Github
Author:  Date: 2016-08-04 01:23
Agner, there are a couple of specialized instruction domains that you seem to be pushing to FPGAs or other coprocessors, but I think ForwardCom will suffer from their exclusion.

Encryption may be specialized, but it's not optional anymore. Fast encryption is going to be a central requirement of any computing device for decades. So the lack of AES and similar instructions is a disadvantage. You could say that FPGAs can do it, but computers today are expected to be able to do this without extra silicon. FPGAs are not in anyone's Bill of Materials for a smartphone, PC, or server (well, in rare cases for servers), and there's still a lot of doubt over whether there are enough programmers who know how to fully leverage FPGAs.

Parsing text and bytecode is a huge part of what computers do every day, so I think a new ISA should take a clean look at how to speed up parsing (and JIT'ing). You don't have any counterpart to the SSE 4.2 string comparisons, and I wouldn't want to punt that to FPGAs either. I know that programs rarely use those SSE 4.2 instructions today, but that sort of thing will become more common in the future as there is more pressure on energy use in cloud computing and battery life on mobile. At some point someone is going to build a clean-sheet web server that fits entirely in the L2/L3 cache.

Have you been able to guess at performance improvements from the new ISA? Holding everything else equal, the foundry technology, etc. would ForwardCom be faster or more efficient than a comparable Broadwell-E? I'm thinking of your new loops, for example, and other features. What sense do you have of the performance difference?

 
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